And Finally, The DSM-5 Controversy
Medscape: Let's touch on the topic that seems to be on everyone's minds these days: the DSM. Can you summarize what's being proposed in the way of autism and ASDs for inclusion in DSM-5 vs the current DSM-IV criteria?
Dr. Volkmar: Well, first of all, there's no question that periodically things need to be redone, and that's just the nature of business. DSM-IV has been around since 1994. It has been remarkably productive, and research has advanced. On the other hand, there are some things that clearly do need to be thought through and changed. One might argue at the very high level that perhaps the way to do this is not to have to change the entire book every time you redo it but to redo sections on a periodic basis. Updates could be published in loose-leaf hardcopies and online.
As far as autism goes, there are some aspects of what's being proposed that are very interesting and innovative, particularly those looking at dimensions of function/dysfunction. The question of moving from this funny term "pervasive developmental disorder" -- which was coined back in 1980 -- to "autism spectrum disorder" is being discussed, which is in some ways in keeping with how people are using the term. So there are aspects to the proposal that are not bad. And also we have a number of very good diagnostic instruments now that have been in the past key to the categorical DSM and International Classification of Diseases (ICD) criteria. And I would point out that one of the other great advantages of the DSM-IV system is that DSM-IV and its international counterpart, ICD-10, essentially are effectively the same. So that means whether you're doing work in Switzerland, Swaziland, or New Haven, you're pretty much working with the same system.
DSM-IV retained what had historically been described since about 1978 -- that is, the grouping of autism features into 3 areas: social disability, communication disability, and unusual behaviors. The proposals in the DSM-5 are to combine social and communication into one criterion set and have another set that has to do with sensitivity to the environment. One of the potential disadvantages of this is that at the end of the day this really needs to be a research-based question and proposal -- it's not a question of opinion, it should be a question of what the data showed.
They're proposing moving to a classification called "autism spectrum disorder," which on the face of it implies a broader view. And that, in fact, was my first worry upon hearing about this -- that it would broaden criteria and potentially dilute services. Paradoxically, my worry is now the opposite. There are multiple studies that have looked or are looking into this at the moment,[9,10,11] but in reviewing the data we collected as part of DSM-IV,[12,13] we are worried that the more cognitively able -- people with IQs of 70 and above -- would actually be somewhat more likely to lose a diagnosis of ASD. This could greatly complicate their lives in terms of getting services and also complicate things for those of us who do research, in terms of following children over 10, or 15, or 20 years who suddenly are no longer supposedly on the spectrum. In going back to matching the new proposed criteria with those we used in DSM-IV, we discovered that even the more highly able people with classical autism lost that label and may be at risk for losing services. Many of the children who previously would have been said to have what are called atypical pervasive developmental disorder and pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified also lost their label and thus likely their eligibility for services, as did a majority of the children with Asperger syndrome.
Medscape: Some American Psychiatric Association representatives have reported that the new criteria will not dramatically alter diagnosis rates. Can you comment on this?
Dr. Volkmar: Yes, I've heard people argue this several ways. One group of people says, "Look, it's not going to change anything," which would be interesting. That would be fine except if it's not going to change anything, why mess with it?
Other people say we'll lose people who have been cured. Now the idea of being "cured" is a tricky business -- my worry is that because we're doing a better job of identifying children early and intervening earlier, children are as a group doing better. In April we had a daylong conference for high school students, their parents, and teachers about sending children with ASDs to college. Now that's not a problem I would have had to cope with very much 20 years ago. That's a new phenomenon and it's because they're doing better. Now, are those kids "cured?"
I did see some unpublished data from someone who was basically claiming this. Those data had to do with kids who are in college with good IQ scores. But the part of the data that she didn't make such a point of addressing -- but which I asked about -- was their real-world skills, which turned out to be an order of magnitude down from where their IQ is. And yes, these kids are very bright, but they may not be able to cope with the world. They may not be able to be out there and be independent, to drive, to balance a check book. I have one young man who does math equations in his head, who’s got an IQ of about 140, who literally can't go into McDonalds and get a cheeseburger. It's just too much for him. You could argue he's cured. But I would argue that, well, that's ridiculous. If you mean by cured he's got a high IQ, then yes, but the problem is he's quite disabled.
And so I worry a little bit that when we talk about this "cured" business, we're minimizing the service needs of our more able children. They're doing better and better, which is fantastic, but the problem is how can we best support them? And many of them get depressed and anxious as they get older because they're out on their own and their resources no longer exist in the usual ways. I worry a little bit that we're going to abandon them. And I worry that school districts could potentially institute occasional evaluations using the new criteria and basically say, "This kid no longer qualifies; no reason to give service."
Medscape: By how much could the prevalence of autism decrease according to your data?
Dr. Volkmar: Among the more cognitively able children (those with IQs above 70) our data suggest it could be as high as 40%; this would be less of an issue in individuals with lower intellectual levels.
Medscape: It's almost paradoxical because usually psychiatrists come under fire for overdiagnosing.
Dr. Volkmar: Yes. And that's certainly the issue for some of the other proposals like the new substance abuse criteria, which could greatly increase rates. But again, if you're somebody who's an epidemiologist, or even somebody like me, who works in a very specific area, you have to step back and say to yourself, "does it make sense that something's going to change radically in either direction overnight?" It makes sense to make changes as change is needed, but the idea of turning the whole book upside down at this point seems to me a little nutty.
Medscape: How would you approach updating the DSM ASD criteria?
Dr. Volkmar: I think at this point there are going to be conflicting data. And I think before we have a radical change, which is going to complicate not only the lives of researchers but especially the lives of parents and children, we should really take a step back and say, "okay, let's really think through what is needed here." And I worry a little bit that the way the process has gone, we have lost of sight of the patients and clinicians who are trying to use this in community and practice settings. I hope I'm wrong about this but fear I'm not.
Medscape: In terms of potentially cutting people out of access to care, what specific treatments are you most concerned about?
Dr. Volkmar: There are good data supporting a number of therapies. And this goes back to a report from the National Research Council back in 2001 called Educating Children with Autism. There are very good data that say that structured and behavioral interventions do work for many children -- though not necessarily for everybody -- and that the earlier we intervene, the better. We understand more and more about how treatment is working. We understand more and more about how having a social disability like autism can result in an idiosyncratic way of learning about the world. I'm not saying right or wrong, just idiosyncratic and not shared with the majority of people. You don't share with others what is and isn't relevant to learn about, so by the time you get to first grade you're in deep trouble. And now we're getting to these children earlier and earlier with a number of evidence-based treatments that really help these kids. It's not like there's necessarily a single right and wrong one, but there are many good, evidence-based treatments that really help with development and normative learning. There's behavioral therapy, special education, communication therapy, technology-based treatments -- there are a ton of options, which is great. So as I said, the problem is that as kids are getting better, I worry that we're going to essentially disqualify some of the kids who most need services and who've done the best and should continue working to do even better. That seems extremely unfortunate.
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